{"id":2794,"date":"2021-06-21T14:45:51","date_gmt":"2021-06-21T18:45:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/podcasts\/?p=2794"},"modified":"2026-03-26T15:05:48","modified_gmt":"2026-03-26T19:05:48","slug":"the-masterminds-behind-curriculum-in-the-classroom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/podcasts\/engineering-the-future-workforce\/the-masterminds-behind-curriculum-in-the-classroom\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting the Classroom Ready to Face Industry 4.0&#8217;s Challenges"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"row podcast-social\">\n    <div class=\"col-12 col-sm-2\"><p>Listen on:<\/p><\/div>\n    <div class=\"col\">\n        <a class=\"button itunes-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/innovation-in-the-classroom\/id1484004628\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iTunes<\/a>\n        <a class=\"button google-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.google.com\/feed\/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBpcHBhLmlvL3B1YmxpYy9zaG93cy9pbm5vdmF0aW9uLWluLXRoZS1jbGFzc3Jvb20\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Google Podcasts<\/a>\n        <a class=\"button spotify-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/32hoLGqqCNQHObq4jJha3j?si=R80tIg_GTCm4Dz20XmeFSw\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spotify<\/a>\n        <a class=\"button stitcher-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/pippa-65\/innovation-in-the-classrom\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stitcher<\/a>\n        <a class=\"button tunein-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/tunein.com\/podcasts\/Education-Podcasts\/Innovation-in-the-Classroom-p1257976\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TuneIn<\/a>\n        <a class=\"button rss-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/5d9371326057b96e6496e754\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RSS<\/a>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Who are the orchestrators behind STEM curriculum accreditation within post-secondary education?&nbsp;How do they help the emerging workforce prepare for the demands of an ever-evolving industry? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On this episode of<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/podcasts\/innovation-in-the-classroom\/\"> Innovation in the Classroom<\/a>, join&nbsp;host&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/dorasmith\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dora Smith<\/a> as she sits down with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.abet.org\/about-abet\/governance\/leadership\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Michael Milligan<\/a>, CEO and Executive Director of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abet.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ABET<\/a>,&nbsp;an NGO dedicated to accrediting post-secondary educational programs in applied natural science, computing, engineering, and engineering technology.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"482\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-1024x482.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2802\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-1024x482.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-600x283.jpg 600w, https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-768x362.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-1536x723.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-2048x964.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/VIP-Consortium-Group-900x424.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><br>ABET Innovation Award winner from 2019 ABET Awards Celebration, Vertically Integrated Projects (VIP) Consortium.  Learn more about the award and the past winners <a href=\"https:\/\/www.abet.org\/awards\/abet-innovation-award\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">her<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abet.org\/awards\/abet-innovation-award\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">e<\/a>. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Dora and Michael explore the intersectionality between academia and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.plm.automation.siemens.com\/global\/en\/our-story\/glossary\/industry-4-0\/29278\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Industry 4.0<\/a> as well as the at-large industry benefits of program accreditation. From discussing the implications of ethical concerns such as sustainability or globalization on the industry to the ramifications of the ever-present skills gap, listen as the pair discusses the most pertinent issues that the future of our workforce faces.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When asked about how education is adjusting to meet the demands of Industry 4.0, Michael replied, \u201cI think we all are witnessing how fast things change. The technology and the demand for new technologies and so forth is lightspeed. It\u2019s something that\u2019s\u00a0really amazing. And so, how do we adjust to help support all that?\u201d To learn more on their thoughts on the answer to such a paramount question, make sure to listen in below.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"embed-megaphone\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm\/?e=TLFIE2754307859\" width=\"100%\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><!-- Megaphone -->\n\n<div id=\"accordion\" class=\"podcast-infonotes\">\n  <div class=\"card\">\n    <div class=\"card-header\" id=\"headingOne\">\n      <span class=\"mb-0\">\n        <button class=\"btn btn-link collapsed\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-target=\"#collapseOne\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"collapseOne\">\n          Expand Show Notes        <\/button>\n      <\/span>\n    <\/div>\n    <div id=\"collapseOne\" class=\"collapse\" aria-labelledby=\"headingOne\" data-parent=\"#accordion\">\n      <div class=\"card-body\">\n        <p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Questions I ask:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Can you tell us about yourself and your journey to ABET? (1:24)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What do you feel is the overall role that ABET plays in education and why are accreditation and engineering programs important? (2:59)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What does accreditation mean to employers and the industry? (4:22)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How do universities blend theory and practice to meat ABET standards? (5:52)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"5\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Can you point out some specific effects you\u2019ve noticed in education and how it\u2019s adjusting to meet industry 4.0? (10:23)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Are there any engineering fields that you\u2019ve seen large shifts in curriculum in because of the evolving global workforce needs? (15:53)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Some educators will say that change is\u00a0really hard\u00a0due to accreditation requirements. Yet others say ABET provides great flexibility in how criteria\u00a0is\u00a0met. Can you help set the record straight?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Can you talk about why diversity and inclusion\u00a0is\u00a0so important and how you are starting to approach it in your criteria? (22:01)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We\u2019ve been seeing a lot of non-degree credentials becoming more popular with learners, industry, and employers both as an alternative to and a pathway towards traditional degree programs. What do you see is ABET\u2019s role in that? (30:42)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"5\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What impact does the industry have on ABET accreditation? What can our listener base do to support and engage with ABET? (34:10)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this Episode You Will Learn\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What the ABET accreditation process for STEM education at post-secondary institutions looks like (3:19)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How the industry influences ABET accreditation standards (4:22)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How educational standards have evolved to match the growing demands of the industry (5:52)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"4\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">About academic innovation is utilized to match the needs of industry 4.0 (17.24)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">About how ethical implications within the industry have influenced curricula (22:01)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"2\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">About the impact that the popularity of non-traditional degree credentials has on the emerging workforce (30:42)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"3\" data-aria-posinset=\"3\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How the industry can\u00a0engage\u00a0and support ABET (31:07)<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233279&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n  <\/div>\n  <\/div><!-- end #accordion -->\n\n<div class=\"bio-block row\">\n    <div class=\"col-3 order-first bio-pic\">\n        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2021\/06\/MMilligan_Photo-July2020-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Michael Milligan -  Executive Director and CEO of ABET \" \/>\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"col-9 bio-info\">\n        <div class=\"bio-header\">\n            <h4 class=\"speakerintro\">Michael Milligan &#8211;  Executive Director and CEO of ABET <\/h4>\n        <\/div>\n        <div class=\"bio-biography\">\n            <p>Michael Milligan is the Executive Director and CEO of ABET, the global accreditor of over 4,300 college and university STEM programs in 41 countries.<\/p>\n<p>Prior to joining ABET in 2009, Milligan worked at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center developing the next generation of environmental satellites for NOAA. He also served over 24 years as a career US Air Force officer working in operations, international R&amp;D, technology acquisition and education as a USAF Academy faculty member. Milligan earned a PhD, MS and BS in Electrical Engineering from the University of Texas at Austin, University of Massachusetts Lowell and Michigan State University, respectively, and the MBA from Western New England University. He is a Registered Professional Engineer (PE) and a Certified Association Executive (CAE).<\/p>        <\/div>\n        <div class=\"bio-contact\">\n            <p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abet.org\/about-abet\/governance\/leadership\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Read more here<\/a><\/p>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Don&#8217;t forget to <a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.acast.com\/public\/shows\/innovation-in-the-classroom\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">subscribe <\/a>to the Innovation in the Classroom Podcast, so you never miss an episode! Keep checking back for more episodes on the future of engineering education and the people who are making it happen. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"podcast-information-block row\">\n    <div class=\"col-4 podcast-cover\">\n        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.sw.siemens.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/32\/2020\/07\/cover-innovation-in-the-classroom.jpg\" alt=\"Innovation in the Classroom\">\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"col-8 podcast-info\">\n        <div class=\"podcast-header\">\n            <h2>Innovation in the Classroom<\/h2>\n        <\/div>\n        <div class=\"podcast-description\">\n            <p><em>Innovation in the Classroom<\/em> by Siemens explores best practices to empower the next generation of digital talent. 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